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I am pretty sure you can only use AD's proprietary drum sounds-they have a number of 'ADPaks' which are quite good. A list of the ADPaks with sound examples is here:.If you want to 'roll your own' drum sounds you need to get a sampler-type program like NI's Maschine or Battery that can import.wav files.FWIW, the whole purpose of AD is to provide meticulously multi-sampled, realistic sounding drum kits that are easy to use-you're not going to get that if you want to use your own drum samples. And I've have good luck with them.They're a cool bunch too.
They were running a special around Christmas. Buy Addictive Drums and get Revalver. So I was stoned and decided to turn in a tech support request. 'I've had AD for years, and I've been a good customer. I've got pretty much everything, and I think your product is great, but I was wondering about this Revalver deal. Can I have it?' I was expecting to be completely ignored.They wrote back after Xmas.
'We're sorry but we can't give you Revalver. It's for new customers, but we can give a free MIDI pack. Pick one and we'll add it to your account free.' They were probably cracking up.
So I got the Blues MIDI pak.So anyway, I figured Okay Now they're running a buy AD ADpak OR MIDI pak and get Revalver or something else until Feb 3. I haven't used any of these drum programs yet, I have only recorded real drums in my studio. I would have assumed that they would have a program path to the instrument (i.e.
Kick, snare, etc.) and that you could change that path to whatever file you want to access. Weird that they limit it to AD samples only. I would prefer to use my own samples or blend in my own samples so that the drums would have my own flavour and not sound like the same drums everyone else is using.Another thing that isn't explained well is if you can do any time signatures. Is it possible to change the patterns they give you to other time signatures (7/8, 5/4, 3/4 etc.)?
They have 3/4, 5/8, 7/8 in some of the ad paks.And they had a number of different kits. Download the demo. Oh, and don't forget to flip the stereo field when you mix with the band unless you want drummer's perspective.You can mixdown the kit like you'd mic a real drum kit or as a single stereo track - solo each kit piece to a separate track - you do get mic bleed from the other kit pieces. Then run mixdown your OH, and Room mics to different tracks. It's up to how much work you want to do.
Since I use a room IR for my entire studio with Waves IR1 I do the extra work and don't use their FX. I've gotten some very convincing drum tracks. You can only use THEIR samples with AD, and they are very good but limited. The percussion is VERY limited, its biggest drawback.
They are great sounding drums, but the only percussion you get with the regular set is one cowbell. I just added the 'percussion add-in ($59) and all you get as extra is a tambourine, congas, and a wood block. This and the price is the AD's biggest drawback.However, when I bought the perc pack today I also got Peavey Revalver and Izotope Nektar for free (thats a pretty good deal)Yeah, I you want perc and you use AD you have to figure out a way to get it from general midi and use a completely separate plugin. (You can't import sounds). It really sucks, I do not know why they made that part so lame.
But the drums sound amazing, like real drums with lots of loops, etc.Its a trade off - great but limited sounds, or cheaper price with less good sounds but more variety. At $249 plus $59 just for the limited percussion it is not the bargain of the century. I guess there are cheaper versions of AD out there now, but the number of sets you get is even more limited.
Yeah, its only the AD sounds coming out of AD. What I was referring to was in your DAW, sending the MIDI from the AD track to another track with a sampler (like ReaSamplomatic in Reaper) with one-shot snare and kick samples triggered by the same notes as the kick and snare in AD to get a slightly bright 'crack' on every snare hit and a bigger 'whoomp' on the kicks without going EQ crazy.I personally say forget about stock MIDI and program your own beats, but I never 'jam' to anything or write stuff where all the instruments didn't need to be rhythmically synced. All the various time signature stuff is pretty much up to what your DAW is capable of, like if you're using this in FLStudio, you'r stuck in 4/4 pretty much, but with Reaper, you can do any signature you want. I will probably purchase AD today.
It is on sale for $99 right now. I'm sure I will figure out a way to use outside samples with it. One way will be to record say a kick or snare as an audio track and then use Drumagog to replace or blend my own wave samples. I have the latest version of Drumagog. I will be using it with Samplitude ProX. With regards to percussion, I will just continue to record real percussion then. I was not impressed with the demo sounds of the percussion pack, and as you say, it is very limited.
Okay, I thought I should download and try the demo before I purchase AD, which I did yesterday. First I will say that while I have 40 years experience in music and recording, I am a newbie when it comes to these drum software programs. I have recorded tons of real drum sets in my studio, but felt it was time to start using other methods for my own projects and possibly others. I had sort of decided that I would get Addictive Drums, until I downloaded and played with the demo. I find the demo far too limiting to get a good feel for the program and what it can do. In fact so limiting that (for me) it may hurt sales. The drum patterns they provide are so basic that they are almost useless and there is no way of knowing how many more will be provided with the full program and how much better they will be.
I know it will take some time to learn and tweak things for personal taste; but as it is, it doesn't sound any better than my simple drum machine. I want to be able to use a drum program for ANY style of music, and ANY time signature I want to be able record and utilize drum patterns for everything from blues, mainstream jazz, rock to jazz fusion, with drum patterns similar to what players like Dave Weckl, Steve Gadd, Vinnie Colaiuta, etc. Would sound like. I am a guitar player and not a drummer so I cannot write these beats myself and was hoping that there would be a HUGE library of beats, fills and patterns that I could choose from and tweak for my own recordings.
Is this going to be possible with the full program? Or do I need to look at more extensive and more expensive programs to achieve this? Maybe Superior Drummer? What program would have the best, largest and most complex library of beats, fills and patterns? Let me mention that you're going to find the drum loops in all of the basic programs limiting.
This is where ALL of them get you if you're not a drummer. You'll have to buy the additional materials that their companies sell. All of them sell supplemental materials that make up their complete libraries. These include more kits, more drum loops.It all boils down to this: How much do you want to spend?I have nearly the entire AD library, plus Spectrasonics Stylus, plus other Reason, plus Heavyocity, plus others. I am not at a loss for drum loops. I don't use the loops, but I agree with you that the AD loops were surprisingly limiting, especially the fills. But the ad-paks also include a lot of additional loops.
You can buy specific ad-paks for your style and probably get a lot of usable loops for you.One thing though - I found it is VERY easy to train AD to follow any other drum machine you may own (I have an Alesis SR16) and now I can 'play' that drum machine to trigger AD drums sets and that sound is (forgive me) AWESOME! Look for the 'learn' function (so you can use their sounds with your own midi loops). This is a program you really need to sit down with and actually read the manual. The interface you see is easy to use, but finding all the features is not that intuitive.
For example there are really about 60 drum sets in my version, but you don't see them unless you click in the drum set window, wait for a drop down box and navigate through the various styles to find the kit you want. If you don't know that, you think they only give you 7 drum sets. The ones you see when you hit the up/down arrows.Another thing to remember about loops is this. Editing is so easy in a DAW that if you find even one or two bars within any loop that you like you can use those bars over and over, and then do the same for each section of the song. That actually seems to be the way they designed their loops to me - because they are short and a bit inconsistent.Like you, I bought AD thinking I would like the library of loops, but I didn't, but I still think it is worth the price for the sound of a real well-recorded drum set (rather than midi samples). Actually getting or making drum loops is easy - The good news is that finding drum loops is easy.
There are companies like (i dunno, its been awhile) 'Beat Monkey' that will sell you 1000 loops for $50. But getting a real drum set recording into your song is not so easy. I am glad I bought it.
Thanks guys So are you saying that I can purchase 'loops' from other sources and can incorporate those loops into AD and use the AD drum samples weith the added loops. I am prepared to pay $500+ for a drum software that will achieve what I am after. Basically, I want beats, fills and patterns that have been recorded by great drummers in many styles that will not require too much manipulation to work in jazz fushion style music. I know I may have to move or add a few kick or crash hits here and there, and add a few fills here and there, but with thousands to choose from it hopefully shouldn't get too repetitive.
With what I heard from the AD demo, I would have to start from scratch with everything I record, and that is just way too much work for a guitar player. So I guess I am asking which software offers the largest and most extensive beats, fills and patterns that would fit my needs. Like I say I don't mind paying a lot more than AD for this.'
Finding something that is close to what you want and then editing it to be exactly what you want'This is the problem! With the demo version I couldn't find anything that was even remotely close to what I wanted. I will have no problem editing a loop to fit what I want as long as it is close to start with. But if it isn't close, I do not want all the work required to get it close. I would rather just stick with recording real kits then. This is why I am saying the demo version is no help for me, because I need to hear the library of beats to see how limiting it is and if it will work for me. RLD, you seem to be missing my point.
I can actually play drums and can think like a drummer. My main point is about the DEMO version of AD. I simply cannot figure out if it will do it for me because it is too limiting. I guess I could just purchase it it for the $99 sale price and find out that way.
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Also, I do have drummers I can call in to help with the editing. However, I would still like to find out which software(s) might have the best selection of loops for the style I am after, since I didn't hear anything close in the AD demo. Maybe they are in there, but there is no way to know from the demo. I have viewed many reviews and tutorials on You Tube, but again they don't tell what's really in there.
From what I can gather EZ Drummer and Superior Drummer offer a lot more patterns and fills, but I just do not know. So this is why I am asking here from others that may have used them. Tim.I think we are trying to tell you that AD does not specialize in loops, (although they have MANY, but you have to buy the AdPaks). They specialize in a great sound drumset you can trigger from Midi loops you get anywhere (or create your own).I suggested you take some of their loops (most are about 4 to 8 measures long) and within them try to find the groove that appeals to you, and use that to build longer loops.I also suggest you learn the 'Learn' function where you can take a keyboard, or your own drum pads, or anything with pads (an M-Audio keyboard) and easily set them up to trigger the AD drum sounds.
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They really sound that good that it makes the program worth the cost.Also - if you buy the program you should probably also buy at least one AdPak where you get additional drum sounds but ALSO a large supply of new loops in your preferred style. This is a company with a model of selling 'add-ons' like buying 'MicroSoft Office' for your computer.
Its just what it is.You seem to be obsessed with loops, and if that is the case don't look at AD for loops, there are so many other places. But if you want a great drum sound in a plugin - something that sounds like a real drummer - and you are willing to accept the idea that they probably have an AdPak with your style, then I think you will be okay - as long as you are willing to take the loops and work with what you get (use sections as I said, maybe draw in some fills, etc.)Right now if you buy it you get a free AdPak (I think) look here. I guess I am just not able to explain myself clearly enough. I totally get what you guys are saying, and I do understand how all the apps work and how they all sound. I have watched all the tutorials and understand how you drop into your DAW and manipulate from there. But I don't think you fully understand what I am saying.
I guess the only way is for me to either purchase the software or find someone who has it where I can go and demo it and see if the loops will be close enough for me. I do not want to spend more hours on editing and manipulating loops for songs where it would be quicker and easier for me to just get a real drummer in and record it. Maybe I am hoping for too much and maybe it is best for me to just stick with real drummers and real drums.Let's try it another way. Here is an original song we recorded back in 2000 that is a somewhat jazz/fusion style. Not saying there is anything remarkable about it, but would any of you be able to build the drums for a song like this from any of the drum apps and loops? Or would it be too onerous?
My gut feeling is it would be faster to have a real drummer, either on real drums or midi drums, than to try to build the song from loops. Maybe I'm wrong, but I am just trying to feel these apps out. FWIW, I emailed Toontracks and they do not offer demos for any of their products. At this point I seem to be starting to lean more towards Superior Drummer with the some of the add on midi packs.